tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post5556678178801740737..comments2024-03-28T02:54:46.537-04:00Comments on The TOF Spot: The Wonderful World of StatisticsTheOFloinnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14756711106266484327noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-72331510074110938592012-12-01T18:35:37.906-05:002012-12-01T18:35:37.906-05:0018% of voters (doesn't that seem kind of high?...<i>18% of voters (doesn't that seem kind of high? Are there really that many graduate degree holders out there? How does anything get done?)</i><br /><br />As you noted, the vast majority of graduate degrees are in education -- and not much <em>does</em> get done there. A Master's Degree is now a ticket that all teachers have to punch during their careers; the quality of education Master's Degrees is about what you would expect from that requirement.Not a wine critichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00962849509867116489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-91180831962601787872012-11-29T01:36:15.477-05:002012-11-29T01:36:15.477-05:00This may be related to another phenomenon: Exit po...This may be related to another phenomenon: Exit polls that Romney carried the wealthy vote but Obama carried the votes of wealthy counties. I suspect this means that Obama overwhelmingly carried the maid and butler vote.<br /><br />In the case of education, Obama clearly carried the votes of neighbors of college graduates.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04720409839023747889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-53796024733961242122012-11-27T10:23:55.990-05:002012-11-27T10:23:55.990-05:00It could also be headlined "Obama favored in ...It could also be headlined "Obama favored in states with more intensely indoctrinated populations".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-32551907646120307192012-11-25T00:02:59.853-05:002012-11-25T00:02:59.853-05:00Thanks for the hat tip. Dug a little deeper - acco...Thanks for the hat tip. Dug a little deeper - according to the CNN exit polls (buyer beware: self reporting caveats apply), the pattern for 2012 was that HS drop outs voted markedly blue, with a steadily increasing propensity for voting red as educational level increased, until people with college degrees voted Romney 51% to 47%. <br /><br />BUT, most interesting, people with graduate degrees - 18% of voters (doesn't that seem kind of high? Are there really that many graduate degree holders out there? How does anything get done?) tended to vote strongly for Obama. <br /><br />So increasing education seems to correspond to greater likelihood of voting red until grad school. But here's the kicker: my unscientific survey of the fields graduate degrees are awarded in show a full 60% of people getting graduate degrees are doing so to advance in public sector careers - education accounts for over 25% of graduate degrees, with Public Admin, various law enforcement and social service degrees making up the rest. (Business & engineering I assumed to be private sector leaning, while health and sociology neutral to public? - the data's probably out there, maybe I'll look it us sometime.) So, it's a little surprising that grad degree holders don't lean even farther left than they do. <br />Joseph Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17489606909822078682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-90280954118300761552012-11-24T22:57:46.792-05:002012-11-24T22:57:46.792-05:00"For it is written: 'I will destroy the w..."For it is written: 'I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the learning of the learned I will set aside.' Where is the wise one? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish?. . . Consider your own calling, brothers. Not many of you were wise by human standards, not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth. Rather, God chose the foolish of the world to shame the wise, and God chose the weak of the world to shame the strong."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-9088442521556592812012-11-24T21:35:38.334-05:002012-11-24T21:35:38.334-05:00I'm reminded of a study I saw some years ago (...I'm reminded of a study I saw some years ago (alas, enough that I cannot remember the names of the researchers) that broke down the voting habits--or preferences, for the underaged--by level of education, for the population of the state of Michigan. The clever part was where they reported it by number of years of education, not just student/high school grad/college student/college grad. What was most interesting was that the propensity for voting red increased with education, until approximately the sophomore year in college, where things took a left turn that more than compensated for the trend in the teenage years.<br />Interesting, but complicated and inconvenient for people telling a narrative of moral and intellectual superiors versus dropouts.Ed Piehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-76664101398369166602012-11-24T18:52:47.170-05:002012-11-24T18:52:47.170-05:00There are two other issues that could be brought u...There are two other issues that could be brought up here. First, does "better educated" mean "more intelligent"? I would love to challenge that assumption which is deeply held as a matter of faith. Second, statistics never tell us how many cemeteries voted in these states. In some states with large political machines, the cemeteries vote (and often, I might add).<br /><br />Great analysis, as usual Mr. Flynn!<br /><br />Slainte!<br />D.v.Deo volentehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06682807064797769708noreply@blogger.com