tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post1181049597722097211..comments2024-03-14T03:14:22.144-04:00Comments on The TOF Spot: Summa origines scientiarum: ProœmiumTheOFloinnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14756711106266484327noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-2203731506160930062013-11-19T14:36:15.504-05:002013-11-19T14:36:15.504-05:00NCSE's blog posted this admiring piece on Albe...NCSE's blog posted this admiring piece on Albertus Magnus today:<br />http://ncse.com/blog/2013/11/albert-great-foundations-science-0015182Not a wine critichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00962849509867116489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-31329590855181481682013-11-12T07:17:56.128-05:002013-11-12T07:17:56.128-05:00close to 80 years after scientists had stopped loo...<i>close to 80 years after scientists had stopped looking for the empirical proof the legend says Galileo found, because they'd found it,</i><br /><br />As noted : they had not.Hans Georg Lundahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055583255516264955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-38220732413337881362013-11-11T16:45:07.650-05:002013-11-11T16:45:07.650-05:00The actual interval may vary among cultures. The m...The actual interval may vary among cultures. The mythologizing of Galileo some three centuries after the fact is independent of whether he was successful. It was the 19th century, celebrating itself, that conjured up the legend. We can actually spot mythmaking in process as regards Roland the paladin of Charlemagne, as we note the entry in the contemporary Annales Regni Francorum, in the within-the-lifetimes Vita Karoli Magni, to Le Chanson de Roland three centuries later. TheOFloinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14756711106266484327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-70652677310423586802013-11-11T16:35:29.403-05:002013-11-11T16:35:29.403-05:00Just one quibble with your analysis, about the 300...Just one quibble with your analysis, about the 300 years for a legend in modern times while in oral cultures 80 years seems to be the number. Per Galileo, the legend says he proved the earth spins on it's axis and revolves around the sun scientifically, or more correctly empirically. That's obvious hogwash as noted above. This legend must wait a while to get going for the reason that it cannot really get started while there are still scientists running around trying to come up with empirical evidence for the earth spinning on it's axis. This particular myth dates to the late 19th century, or close to 80 years after scientists had stopped looking for the empirical proof the legend says Galileo found, because they'd found it, which could be about as soon as it could get going.<br /><br />I'd like to add that some of the same sort created the 'Pius XII was a Nazi sympathizer' myth too and that one didn't wait 80 years. If motivated enough, I guess one need wait 80 years.j mctnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-72993234832533214872013-11-11T07:15:57.213-05:002013-11-11T07:15:57.213-05:00It can be stated in defense of that, that Western ...It can be stated in defense of that, that Western Scholasticism started off as an offshot of Islamic and Byzantine learning.<br /><br />However, behind all three we have the Greeks, and we have them filtered through Catholic-Orthodox and Islamic Monotheism.Hans Georg Lundahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055583255516264955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-33870811954565685662013-11-10T14:42:57.877-05:002013-11-10T14:42:57.877-05:00According to John W. Campbell, Islam invented scie...According to John W. Campbell, Islam invented science. (I don't know if that includes psionics or the Dean drive.)Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04720409839023747889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-56046234820445771222013-11-09T09:24:45.823-05:002013-11-09T09:24:45.823-05:00The lack of stellar parallax falsified the distanc...<i>The lack of stellar parallax falsified the distance to the stars estimated from their apparent disk sizes, not heliocentrism as such.</i><br /><br />Does, possibly, negative parallax falsify Heliocentrism as such?<br /><br />At least the discovery of so called parallax did not falsify Geocentrism.<br /><br />Since, with angelic movers for each star and planet, but not for earth, "parallax" can be a proper movement of the star, and therefore neither a sign of Earth's supposed orbit, nor a sufficient trigonometric information for calculating the distance.<br /><br />Instead of "one known side, two known angles" Geocentrism reduces the movement to one known angle, no known distance.Hans Georg Lundahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055583255516264955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-82816181185042937222013-11-09T09:19:31.546-05:002013-11-09T09:19:31.546-05:00The Church has not rejected blind faith. It has re...The Church has not rejected blind faith. It has rejected the theory that blind faith is all we can have. And Schönborn is as useless a Scholastic as he is a Dogmatist.<br /><br />As a Viennese and a Catholic I am deeply concerned about this Schönborn thing being called Cardinal over there. Since his father was a freemason, he should not have been allowed into the clergy. He was, but he has not really made up for the disadvantage that should have blocked him.<br /><br />Now, the supposed condemnation of blind faith, where the Church has a condemnation of Fideistic theory of Faith, along with the popularised identification between Creationism and blind faith allows him to condemn Creationism by a sleight of hand. He is deeply dishonest.Hans Georg Lundahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055583255516264955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-80160612638528429972013-11-06T21:10:50.320-05:002013-11-06T21:10:50.320-05:00*originis*originisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-72729007388577082482013-11-06T08:35:22.980-05:002013-11-06T08:35:22.980-05:00This is an intelligent and scholarly blog. I feel...This is an intelligent and scholarly blog. I feel like the bastard child of a genius here. R A https://www.blogger.com/profile/10622961439084417910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-8123556733732613392013-11-04T16:54:38.806-05:002013-11-04T16:54:38.806-05:00Now, if you could just combine this topic with &qu...Now, if you could just combine this topic with "The Wreck" by juxtaposition for humorous effect...Xena Catolicanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-38348285583276546042013-11-04T11:19:03.436-05:002013-11-04T11:19:03.436-05:00Commentators in that comm box grew distraught, nat...<i>Commentators in that comm box grew distraught, naturally.</i><br /><br />The worst thing is these people pride themselves on not being ensnared by myth, and yet Coyne's post is a long list of nothing but self-flattering myths. It would funny it weren't so tragically sad.<br /><br />They worship science as a god. They don't actually study the history of it. I could recommend they read James Hannam, Toby Huff, David C. Lindberg, Edward Grant and others, but why bother? They have their comfy little myth and that's that. They are just as bad any fundamentalist.jmhenryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10108615537455993311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-22643610927768586152013-11-04T10:45:22.491-05:002013-11-04T10:45:22.491-05:00My extremely superficial take (as someone who got ...My extremely superficial take (as someone who got his BA in History of Science):<br />1. Yes<br />2. Yes<br />3. YesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-23764286512787752622013-11-03T22:43:16.293-05:002013-11-03T22:43:16.293-05:00I'm excited for these!
"Theory determin...I'm excited for these! <br /><br />"Theory determines what can be observed"... Wow!Basil Stag Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05249972715160411934noreply@blogger.com