tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post4707917892544026244..comments2024-03-28T02:54:46.537-04:00Comments on The TOF Spot: Adam and Eve and Ted and AliceTheOFloinnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14756711106266484327noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-62631741683847145462022-01-24T12:32:40.421-05:002022-01-24T12:32:40.421-05:00I saw I had forgotten to link, and here is a PS I ...I saw I had forgotten to link, and here is a PS I added:<br /><br />PS - I took on mainly the version in which non-Adamites were only anatomically human, but soulless. However, the idea that mankind had 10 000 ancestors in Adam's time of whom Adam and Eve were only two has its definite problems too. Not in the narrative as a pure narrative, but in relation to the theological perspectives opened by NT comment, like St. Paul. "People from outside the garden" dying is problematic through "through one man, sin entered the world and through sin death" - but suppose we got around this by assuming he meant only "penal death" while <i>physical</i> human death could have existed nevertheless (as said, problematic, and I am not buying it), we <i>still</i> have the question why rational humans who were not tainted by Adam's sin would be so attracted to his kin that by intermarriage they forsook their own freedom from original sin. As obviously what it means to call Adam the first man, rather than one of the first men, and why mankind should be cursed for the sake of only one ancestor out of 10 000 rather than, as in ordinary theology, for the sake of the sin of the soul male ancestor in his generation and that the first./HGLHans Georg Lundahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055583255516264955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-20807846295457176572022-01-19T11:37:41.534-05:002022-01-19T11:37:41.534-05:00There are things that are directly as such "d...There are things that are directly as such "de fide definita" - and then there are things that (by logical interconnexion with such) are "fidei proxima".<br /><br />Here is why Young Earth Creationism is at the very least "fidei proxima":<br /><br /><a href="https://creavsevolu.blogspot.com/2022/01/craig-and-swamidass.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Creation vs. Evolution : Craig and Swamidass</i><br />https://creavsevolu.blogspot.com/2022/01/craig-and-swamidass.html</a><br /><br />Your article is cited in it, by the way.Hans Georg Lundahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055583255516264955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-39740309505813757502021-10-25T10:30:49.177-04:002021-10-25T10:30:49.177-04:00Well, I like your essay, which makes a lot of sens...Well, I like your essay, which makes a lot of sense, particularly for its intended audience.<br /><br />That said, the point of the "garden" was that it was seen as being around God's holy mountain, the precursor to the Temple. And just like the priests of the Temple, Adam was instructed to "tend and guard" God's garden (Gen. 2:15). The description of Eden is a mystical description of Israel, and the mountain is Zion. And God is described in Gen. 2:8 as having "placed" the man in the garden, not necessarily him starting out there. So it's the first example in the Bible of God bringing someone out to a holy mountain to spend time with Him.<br /><br />(Insert "cosmic Temple" theology here. Which is very interesting and fun, and makes a lot of sense of some of the odd happenings in the OT and NT. But basically, humans are the priestly people of Creation, we're supposed to "tend and guard" Creation, all the Jewish temples were little models of the universe with the Holy of Holies representing Heaven, and so on. And of course Jesus as the New Adam, and the Book of Revelation showing Heaven to be the ultimate Temple.)<br /><br />Now, the interesting bit is that Israel was indeed home to lots and lots of Neanderthals as well as Cro-Magnon people, and the nephilim and their half-human and mostly human descendants, the "giants," have a lot in common with Neanderthal descriptions. I don't insist on it, but it's possible.<br /><br />(And Ruth was an Amorite, allegedly descended from giants and described in the Bible in terms that remind one of that. So David vs. Goliath was arguably a family fight.)Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-447603865959500290.post-255235100322578732021-09-05T18:36:23.359-04:002021-09-05T18:36:23.359-04:00Excellent. Printed and added to my thin binder ti...Excellent. Printed and added to my thin binder titled "The Best".<br />Rich SiersRichard Siershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00098856154944451031noreply@blogger.com